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I feel that the shift towards recognizing financially independent as the real goal, versus "working full time," is likely a realistic one. The point of work is not to work per se, it's to provide for ones material needs (and perhaps wants).

Notice also that the 2025 values that dominate are: "be financially independent," "get married," and "have a child." These are very personal things that affect one's life directly and profoundly. The 2002 cohort, besides "working full time," listed "completing a degree" and "being able to provide for others." The first two are essentially about external social validation, and "being able to provide for others" is actually pretty similar to (if a weaker statement than) being financially independent. Essentially, getting married and having a child (things that are rarer in young adults than they used to be) have replaced working full time and completing a degree, things which are even more common than they used to be. College degrees are slightly more common than they were in 2002, and unemployment was somewhat higher than following the dotcom crash. In each case, the "adulthood" differences seem to reflect things that were statistically a little rarer and harder for each generation at that point in their respective lives.

I'm not even a little bit surprised that liberal young men are more likely to have a degree. Significant elements within conservative culture actively discourage further education. This isn't universal of course, but it's meaningful and enough to show up in statistical outcomes. I distinctly remember being shamed when younger by some people for pursuing "secular" college education (as opposed to BJU, Liberty U, or similar).

Re: dating. I think the looksmaxing crowd does a lot of psychological damage to young men. But, the reality is that looks DO matter and the percentage of young men these days who are overweight/obese and don't even keep up their basic hygiene and appearance continues to climb. I suspect that many statements like "not ready to start a romantic relationship" probably reflect emotional self defense because relationships feel unattainable, rather than more than half of 18-29 year olds actually not feeling ready to pursue romantic relationships. The "fear being rejected" and "it's been difficult" results are unsurprisingly pretty similar in total percentage to the "not ready" crowd in this survey.

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Also, if all advantages to females were stripped from education and employment, we would actually have a level playing field instead of the skewed nonsense we have now. The boomer and late gen x obsession with pleasing females no matter what is pretty pathetic anyways.

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