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Alastair's avatar

Thank you for the thought provoking analysis as always Aaron.

I think one problem with using Taylor’s excarnation lens is that it almost inevitably puts Evangelicals down.

Taylor’s whole narrative is written from a Catholic standpoint, where Catholic sacramentality is the measure of "incarnation". Apply that frame and Evangelicals will always look like the most excarnated, regardless of lived reality.

Ironically, Evangelicals often practise some of the most incarnated Christianity on the ground. Almost all of them have small groups, prayer circles, youth ministries, mission trips, shared meals, accountability partnerships, etc. These are thick, embodied, communal forms of faith that actually structure people’s day-to-day lives.

Meanwhile, Catholicism, the tradition Taylor assumes to be paradigmatically “incarnational”, shows the deepest practical excarnation. A recent study (https://churchlifejournal.nd.edu/articles/a-solution-to-the-churchs-biggest-problem/) had it at *nine* in ten cradle Catholics eventually stop practising!

And the drivers were things like: weak parish social bonds, digital saturation (internet and smartphones) crowding out community, parents who don’t model regular practice in the home.

In other words, the tradition with the supposedly rich sacramental, incarnational theology is now haemorrhaging precisely because its lived "incarnationality" paper thin. Instead it's Evangelicals who generate the most embodied, communal Christianity in practice.

Taylor’s categories can be very helpful, but they also embed his Catholic bias. If we use them uncritically, we risk romanticising Catholic resilience while caricaturing Evangelicals, when in fact the reality cuts the other way!

I'm not in the American context, so happy to be corrected as an outside observer, but American Evangelicalism does seem remarkably resilient.

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Joshua Russo's avatar

Paul Vanderklay calls this metagelical, meaning everyone is a little evangelical in practice, whether you are RCC, PCA, SBC, or EO. I notice this in my church, a mini mega church built on the Saddleback/willowcreek model. The tie that binds is not being Assembly of god, Pentecostal, or even generally charismatic, but being non catholic. The liturgy is generally familiar to any non-denominational church in the same way small neighborhood restaurants across the us generally have a similar format and food. This lack of depth allows people to come and go as they please, and practices to come and go as they please. We are beholden to neither people, place, nor practice. There is no one that has that has been a cradle Cornerstoner that remembers the good old days. Thus you get a service that is very expedient and immediate to the tides and movements of the day.

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