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TorqueWrench10's avatar

Great, now if we can convince the newcomers to stop showing in group preference and adopt this point of view we’ll be fine.

Pluralistic societies can work, as we see in the deeply “unpopular” but weirdly high functioning Austrian-Hungarian and British Empires. Both of which were incidentally more democratic than is commonly supposed. But it worked because if there ever was a conflict between local “norms” and to use the British as an example, English common law, English common law won. That part wasn’t up to a vote.

The problem as I see it, is that every group is allowed to advocate for its interests, even at the cost of others, except for one, and it’s not exactly the one you think. Next, these groups also have cultural attitudes on everything from law and order to social norms, that other groups will find intolerable.

Indians erecting a giant statue of a demon god should bother you. East Asians and Latins voting for more “familiar” forms of local government with attendant corruption should bother you.

Of course my answer will please no one but I believe it’s the only one. Our only real duty is to do what we believe God would wish us to. And it might not be what you think. It might actually be fighting, it might actually be yielding (Jeremiah was called basically a collaborator when he got the word that the invasion was coming and there was no fighting it). But I’m hard pressed to believe it ever entails thinking that idolatry, corruption, and governmental bullying is “just as good” because “America is always changing”.

NB I’m not saying you’re saying this, just that I think we’re in for a rougher ride than you might think.

Gordon R. Vaughan's avatar

As a native Houstonian born a bit before 1965, I feel like I've had a front-row seat to this phenomenon my whole life. Houston really has been a great case study for so much of this stuff, especially the development of subcultures for each group.

A friend of my Taiwanese wife's mother lives not far from that giant Hindu statue. And across the street from her neighborhood is a Bangladeshi community center. For years, it was not much more than a shack, but about a decade ago, they built a nice building. That community is starting to get more established and prosper, as they generally do. It is a fascinating process to see play out, over and over. Next door is a Nigerian Anglican church, probably considerably more conservative than many such started by white Episcopalians long ago.

This is the sort of thing you see everywhere in Houston. I suppose it still seems threatening to a lot of folks from other places, but yes, Aaron, it is the new normal, and I suggest not all bad, by quite a bit. I am very curious to see what happens to the children of Hindus in particular, and also Muslims (a far more diverse demographic) in the years ahead. My biggest concern isn't that these religions will prevail, but that the American Church is in such poor health it isn't anywhere near ready to take advantage of the endless ministry opportunities having the world at our doorstep presents.

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