Thanksgiving Open Thread: Mysticism, Mystery and Re-enchantment
Re-enchantment could be one of the big themes of the next decade
It’s the Thanksgiving holiday in the US. So take some time to remember all that you have to be thankful for. I certainly have a lot to be thankful for, not least of which are all of you who took advantage of my special last week to join my Member program. Thanks so much.
I’ll be returning on Monday with my usual podcast, this one an episode with Nancy Pearcey discussing her new book The Toxic War on Masculinity.
I published John Seel’s essay on masculinity and being a holy man because I thought it had some interesting, provocative takes. But I was struck by two things in particular when I originally read a version of it he wrote as part of a study he’d been commissioned to do.
First is the growing appeal of Eastern Orthodoxy. When I read his description of the “holy man,” I immediately said to myself, “This is why young men are converting to Eastern Orthodoxy,” even though he did not mention Orthodoxy at all in the original version I read.
While the numbers are small, there does seem to have been a flow of young men into Orthodoxy. It’s especially the case in the online right, where the “orthobro” has become a fixture. Just as Catholicism is normative in mainstream conservative circles, it’s very possible that Orthodoxy might ultimately become normative in dissident conservative ones. Do not underestimate the power of this form of social normativity.
Also, whether accurate or not, Orthodoxy has acquired the reputation of a tradition that is very attractive and friendly to men. Brands like this can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. In the online men’s sphere, evangelicalism is viewed as a female-centric movement, which increases the draw of Orthodoxy as the religion for men. In his book Why Men Hate Going to Church, David Murrow noted a split in the black community, with women drawn to Christianity and men increasingly to Islam. Given the pervasive gender splits we are seeing in multiple countries and in multiple domains (e.g. politics), we might possible see men and women increasingly drawn to different religious traditions within Christianity.
And, with the Catholic abuse scandals as well as Pope Francis’ emerging reputation as a liberal, the bloom is off the rose of Catholicism for many potential converts. Just as in the evangelical world, the hot thing shifted from “Presbyterian” to “Anglican,” there seems to be a shift away from the attractiveness of Catholicism toward Orthodoxy, especially for those who don’t have career ambitions within movement conservatism.
Evangelicals should be very attentive to the current appeal of Orthodoxy. Even though the numbers are small, I believe they are disproportionately next generation influencers. So this is significant, just as the conversion of intellectuals to Catholicism has been considered significant even though the net flow of conversions is actually away from Catholicism towards evangelicalism.
Seel’s essay also hit on the theme of re-enchantment, which I believe will be very big in the coming decade. As you may know, Rod Dreher’s next book is going to be on re-enchantment. He’s someone with a nose for what is coming next, though even as he himself will say, he’s sometimes a bit too early to market. He parted ways with his original publisher on the project, but I believe he is on to something big here. Just as with The Benedict Option, there’s a good chance his new book will be written in a register that is off-putting to evangelicals, but that doesn’t mean its core insights won’t be important.
I went through a three year period some time ago that was by far the worst of my life. It wasn’t just that it was bad, but that there were so many bizarre things that happened that they could only be collectively viewed as at least semi-miraculous - but for the purposes of harming me. I had never read Max Weber, but after that period was over and I read Charles Taylor’s A Secular Age and his account of disenchantment I realized something: during that three year period the world had become re-enchanted for me.
I was raised Pentecostal, but that’s not what I’m talking about here. It’s much more like Nassim Taleb’s idea of the Black Swan - the seemingly random, un-anticipatable, outlier events that are overwhelmingly determinate of our life outcomes. One reason I have been so taken with Taleb’s work, and make continued references to it, is because I’ve lived it. And I believe that, properly put into a spiritual register, Taleb’s ideas around randomness and Black Swans are a foundation for a re-enchanted view of the world.
I should be no surprise that Taleb comes from Orthodoxy. The fact that Orthodoxy seems to operate with a richer appreciation of mystery and mysticism is another factor drawing young people to it. It speaks to this growing longing for a re-enchanted world. (The draw to Jordan Peterson’s Jungian claptrap is probably in this vein as well).
Obviously I can’t predict the future, but cultural currents suggest to me that re-enchantment will be a major and growing theme in coming years, and will subsume the previous movement towards liturgy within it. For Protestants, I believe the the draw to liturgy over the past decade+ is not just about seeking for a more deeply rooted tradition - although it is that - but about an underlying longing for a more re-enchanted spirituality.
When I read about American history, I see a people who were deeply cognizant of the role of Providence in their fate, and that of the nation. This sense of the role Providence pervasively at work in human affairs is perhaps a Protestantized version of a form of enchantment. Maybe we’ll see a return of this as well.
Regardless of how it plays out, I anticipate re-enchantment being a much bigger theme for younger generations in a Negative World. This will be something that the moralistic therapeutic Boomerism of mainstream evangelicalism will struggle to adapt to.
Comments are open to all on this post:
Do you see Orthodoxy gaining traction or not?
What’s drawing people to convert?
What do you think about the idea of re-enchantment?
How have you personally experienced re-enchantment?
Cover image: Hans Speckaert, “Conversion of St Paul on the Road to Damascus”
I am a Romanian orthodox christian that has been a subscriber of your masculinist newsletter since its first episodes. I also write for www.theodosie.ro an orthodox blog focused on national civic subjects.
The point I want to make is that the ortodox christianity in the west is (still) very far away from what those living în orthodox countries tend to recognize as such. I am sure that the Greek word "phronema" is known by those close or interested in EO. It losely translates to "mindset of the Church" and is one of the missing links for the proper understanding of EO. This cannot be obtainded through study or through intelectual effort alone, but through consistent religious practice while suffering for the faith. Until now there has been very little suffering for the orthodox faith in the west, therefore I believe the alure of EO is mostly of cultural nature. I mostly see cultural contagion at work and only few conversions.
The second point I want to make is that orthodoxy in the west will only erupt through its own saints, (people living and practicing in the west) not through religious appropriation. From an orthodox point of view it is a lot more relevant the fact that USA was the (foster) home of Saint Seraphim Rose or John Maximovici and ROCOR, than the fact that orthodox esthetics have gained visibility. One true (local) saint man is a lot more relevant sociologically than any brute increase in the number of those interested in EO.
Last, for the orthodox believer the enchantment many speak of is verry worrying because it points towards great spiritual dangers, described by Saint Ignatius Brianchaninov. It might be better to remain in a deserted spot, spiritually speaking, while prepearing for suffering, than pursuing spiritual endeavors the sort of we witness today.
My 2 cents. Thank you for your great job! Greetings from Romania!
I'm a PCA Presbyterian and have been studying Eastern Orthodoxy for 20 years. It is pretty obvious that it is the continual expression of the historic church from antiquity. Yet, I have no intent to convert. Such a conversion would require laying down convictions and picking up others almost arbitrarily, but also attempting to pick up a whole new ecclesiastical culture that in the end may be life giving, but could also be so disruptive to my family as to do far more harm than good. While I am convinced of the continuity of the East, I don't believe in the slightest that conforming myself to that continuity is necessary to be in communion with the body of Christ. I have yet to experience the Divine Liturgy, but hope to, and desire to see elements of Incarnational worship reintroduced to my own tradition.
My primary interest in Orthodoxy is in the anti-materialist sacred structure and space- the Logos working on us through the physical world. The embracing of mystery. Protestantism, particularly American, is in many respects is so "stripped down" as to be almost entirely disembodied. Having thrown off the symbolic language and structure of the ancient church, calling it superstition (and much of Roman Catholicism at the end of the medieval period, was indeed), we've ended up with a spiritualization of rationalism that drifts through temporary habitations, unable to manifest transcendent meaning from one generation to the next. When we devalue the Eucharist as a mere gesture of good will, rather than as ontological participation in the cross dimensional localization of Christ's energy, working into us, it is no wonder everything else becomes superficial. I understand Orthodox Christianity as embracing a rational mysticism, while Protestantism (heir of the Enlightenment) is largely a mystical rationalism, which is why the tendency of its institutions to devolve to liberalism.
Paul Kingsnorth, Martin Shaw, and others, are interesting, because they are among many post-secular intellectuals returning to faith, and in doing so, seek out the oldest, most peculiar and ritualized, because of the realization that a true encounter of the divine is going to be otherworldly and strange. As the West collapses, I think that is the future of Christianity. My hope is that, at least to some degree, the Reformed churches are able to revert the mystical and the rational, and pursue sacred spaces instead of safe ones.