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"All of these men will make up the fabric of our future culture. They will live in our communities, vote in our elections. They will require public help as they age, with few friends or family to fulfill the role of elder care. They will be the old men sitting alone by themselves at the diner, if by the grace of God there are still diners to speak of."

Taylor's almost wistful piece on the loneliness epidemic coming for "future childless cat guys" is true enough. The situation will be made even worse by smaller families. Those guys can be great uncles and included in family functions. Will be less and less true in the future. Perhaps there will be a renaissance of men's fraternal organizations to fill that very need.

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The story from Christianity Today on the First Christian Reformed Church leaving the denomination is a well-written and interesting.

In 2018, the church tried hard to split the difference and find a reasonable middle ground:

"...acknowledging that we are in a place of uncertainty, we move to invite all members of First Church to full participation in the life and ministry of the congregation...."

This is one of those half steps that is meant to just be a waystation on the way to full liberalization, but can be sort of cloaked in plausible deniability:

" 'We interpreted this as an inclusive but not affirming stand,' he [Jacobs] told CT. 'We never said that we interpret Scripture to say that God affirms same-sex marriages....' "

The pattern is the same: "discussion" --> "inclusion" (perhaps with fig leaf orthodoxy) --> affirmation --> celebration --> mandatory affirmation.

But it didn't work out that way:

“ 'They thought they were taking the lead and the denomination would come around,' he [Compagner] told CT. 'They presumed it would go like women in ordained office, and they were shocked when it didn’t.' "

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The initial step of inclusion without full affirmation seems to be an inherently unstable equilibrium.

- Do you think that anyone really thought that would be the lasting solution?

- Does anyone have examples of institutions that have successfully found a way to manage the "inclusive but not affirming" settlement to avoid schism?

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