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I'll second the recommend for Douthat's Burge interview. Douthat's podcast is one of the best out there, mainly because he's very good about pressing people and not letting them get away with punting or deflecting.

My $0.02 on the SBC, as someone who has lived a lot of his life in and around it: there are a lot of SBC churches with relatively good demographics. Though one difference relative to the non-denom world: every SBC church has a solid contingent of old people. In many, but not all cases, they still have plenty of families.

Non-denoms are the opposite: they basically always have families or single young people. They may or may not have anyone over the age of 65, but even if they have some, they will never have as many as even a family-oriented SBC church.

I would think the SBC could recover to some degree if it produced incentives for churches to join it. For example, it could invest more resources in church planting, or invest them more wisely. Summit Church -- part of the SBC! -- has its own Summit Network of church plants, which seem to be mostly, if not exclusively, non-denoms. I don't have the exact stats, but I wonder if Summit on its own has had more success at church planting than the SBC itself. My own non-denom received a crucial loan from a Baptist organization to finance the purchase of a new building.

But the problem -- and this is shared to some degree by all denominations -- is the brand has negative value. Some of the most successful SBC churches don't have "Baptist" in their name.

Though there's a particular irony in the case of Baptists: the trajectory of American Christianity is non-denominational, and your standard non-denom would qualify as some form of Baptist (though some are more on the Charismatic side). I would go so far as to say that the Baptist approach has become the dominant religious expression in America, and most of the market share lost by the Mainlines was taken up by churches that are Baptist in essence. Yet fewer and fewer Christians want to call themselves "Baptists". I wonder if to some degree Baptists are victims of their own success.

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