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Spouting Thomas's avatar

Very interesting angle. I understand that this personal advice more than anything, but I'm trying to think how true it rings in this case. Pete made a pretty bold run for President in 2020, given his lack of political experience or name recognition. I would say that he rebelled against the script at that moment, and it has gotten him to where he is today.

His real mistake, if you ask me, was that he hasn't yet looked to launch a campaign for another office, when his current gig is already ending, unless Kamala both wins and decides to keep him around. And he shouldn't want to stick around! Maybe he let himself get comfortable.

If I were him, when I agreed to drop out of the 2020 primaries, I would have asked for not just a Cabinet position, but a promise from Biden to endorse me for a carpetbagging Senate seat somewhere, in 2024 at the latest, but maybe even 2022.

As it happens, he wouldn't even need to carpetbag that blatantly. He claims residency in Michigan, and an incumbent Democrat Senator is retiring there in 2024! And the Democrats' nominee, one Ms. Slotkin, is heavily favored to win. Seems like a tremendous missed opportunity for Pete, who surely could have beaten Slotkin for the nomination with Biden's blessing.

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Makes sense. Throw in the comparison with Ramaswamy, who was on the 'Buttigieg track' to the point that both of them showed up for the same MSNBC/Harvard Q&A series with 2004 Dem candidates (Gephardt & Sharpton respectively; Buttigieg's take at the time was entitled "Hollywood Hypocrisy vs. Neo-Liberal Neurosis.") Their actual questions were incredibly banal, a strike against the idea that elites are particularly insightful or profound.

Ramaswamy's bio is obviously closer to that of Usha Vance. He too is loathed by the elite, but I'm not sure if more or less than Vance. Both immigrant POC and poor Americans are supposed to accept their position as humble beneficiaries of liberal largesse, and libs get really pissed when they don't do that. Maybe Vance's socially conservative Catholic views add an extra layer of loathing; I think Ramaswamy's Hinduism might also help him with the libs.

https://x.com/jarvis_best/status/1696548269604979099

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/vivek-ramaswamy-was-not-the-only-presidential-hopeful-to-appear-on-msnbcs-hardball-as-a-young-man-in-2003/

https://maxread.substack.com/p/notes-toward-a-theory-of-the-millennial

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2003/10/27/hollywood-hypocrisy-vs-neo-liberal-neurosis-if/

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2003/10/14/a-look-behind-the-scenes-of/

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